Hockey Ratings (Cont.)

6/5/2007 9:22:57 PM
Cadet04
6/5/2007 9:22:57 PM Report Abuse
I really didn't want to do this, i really didn't.  However, Cadetfan2010 you just couldn't let it die.  Here's the 2nd headline on ESPN.com right now as i type this "Stanley Cup Game 3 Ratings Equal Record Low" (Source: Espn.com).  I want to first start out by saying that i never doubted you when you said ratings would go up once the prime time games hit NBC, in fact, i was the first one to say it.

1/2007 3:40:15 PM
Cadet04
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Hold on... you are telling me that if the NHL Playoffs were on ESPN (Instead of most of the games that have been on NBC) they would have more viewers? 

You do know not everyone in the country has cable right?  So the fact you have the leg up and are on a network station should open you up to bigger audiences.
  But of course you would ignore that fact.  The NBA has only the sunday playoff games on ABC.  Whereas Games 3-7 of the Stanley Cup Finals will be on NBC.

This year's playoff games set all-time lows for the nbc network in primetime tv.  Game 3 was tied for the lowest with a re-run of West Wing in the middle of july.  That's pitiful.  You obviously ignore all the facts and are just here to argue. 

Please don't come on here and try to defend hockey to me, it's indefensible to put it on prime time tv.  Hockey's ratings are only getting lower.  Last year was the first year after a lock out and it had higher viewership in every game.  I will allow the theory that because a major hockey team like detroit is hurting it's ratings, but not to the point where it should be setting all-time lows for viewership on a network.  It's network tv, everyone gets it. 


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pbuckley
6/5/2007 9:54:31 PM Report Abuse
Ouch, that hurts.

Just about every other non-major sport you could think of (soccer, golf, tennis, Nascar) beats those numbers.  That's really embarassing for a sport that was in its heyday at one time probably the number two sport in the country.  (Mid-20th century, 2nd to baseball, before football merged, before basketball became big)
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baseball18
6/5/2007 11:12:02 PM Report Abuse
"but i like watching it, its exciting to me, so the ratings are going to go up!!"

nope
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peopleschamp45
6/5/2007 11:49:37 PM Report Abuse
Well since Cadet and I are the only true hockey fans on here (we don't turn on the sport just because of a stupid strike which occurs in all professional sports), there isn't much to talk about. The numbers are far less laughable than 500,000 this time though, as the viewers of Game 3/4 exceed 3 million. I don't know why Cadet needs to prove how smart he is, we all know he is brilliant and knows everything. And the ratings did go up jackass. I would say 500,000 to over 3 million is an increase. Who knows though...
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Cadet04
6/6/2007 12:32:42 AM Report Abuse
It was about 3 million combined for games 3 and 4.  A 1.0 rating is equal to 1.114 million viewers... it got a 1.1 in game 3 and a 1.9 in game 4. 

I guess what i was really trying to get at, other than slowly killing cadetfan's soul, was proving that even on major network tv the ratings are still pitiful.  The AFL had higher ratings on prime-time tv... THE AFL.  It's a sad day in sports when a second-rate football league gets higher ratings than the best hockey league in the world.  Listen, it's great you got more than double the viewers once you went on prime-time on network tv, but shouldn't you have suspected that, or hoped for more?  As much crap as i give hockey for it's ratings, as a "true" fan doesn't it bother you to know your sport of choice can only manage to get 3 million domestic viewers on the absolute best time, and best network and maybe 10x that worldwide during two of the championship games? 

By the way cadetfan if you ever want to check tv ratings, check out nielsen, or in this case the nhl and versus posted theirs. 
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andresm14
6/6/2007 2:00:57 AM Report Abuse
glad you can make a post on it....if you dont like hockey then dont watch it or talk about it.  there are people here who enjoy watching the sport, as it is one of the hardest sports to play.  hockey has taken a lot of criticism recently for "violent" acts such as Bertuzzi, and the whole debate on wether fighting should be allowed.  Hockey is on the rise as I see it, because they are adapting to what people want to see.  Other sports have done that too.
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peopleschamp45
6/6/2007 5:32:52 AM Report Abuse
Game 3 had a 1.5 overnight and 3 share. Share measures out of those which actually have the TV turned on.
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Cadetfan2010
6/6/2007 8:45:41 AM Report Abuse
I doubt it that it only got 3 million veiwers over 2 games. 3 million for each game sound about right to me. Anaheim's going to pull out a 4-1 series win tonight. Sucks for the Senators.
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Cadetfan2010
6/6/2007 8:50:18 AM Report Abuse
Cadet how do you find the stuff on nielsen.com?
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peopleschamp45
6/6/2007 9:07:28 AM Report Abuse
Like I said, the share for games 3 and 4 (each, not combined) was over 3 million. if you go by that it is a much better indication since the people who didn't have their TVs on at all obviously do not care about sports at all (the follow-up to the Lebron show was at the same time as game 3).
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pbuckley
6/6/2007 1:15:12 PM Report Abuse
If you look in today's Style section of the Post, it has the ratings for last week.  Saturday Night's NHL broadcast averaged about a 1.6 rating - translating into under 2,000,000 viewers.  That is terrible, that is beyond terrible for a former one of the "Big Four".
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Cadetfan2010
6/6/2007 2:33:38 PM Report Abuse
Hockey is a sport that anyone can easily get attached too. Nobody is concerned that it will die out. Most ex-hockey lovers are still pissed about the lockout and are giving up on the NHL but they know they won't beable to stay away and will come back. Each year the ratings will go up. Trust me on this one. Honestly i'm not concerned and many other TRUE hockey fans aren't concerned for the sport. It'll come back. It will rise since the sport is becoming more and more popular world wide.

Boo unexpected decline in NHL veiwership. Horray comeback!  ;-)
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sslax
6/6/2007 3:04:59 PM Report Abuse
does anyone have any intelligent reasons for why hockey is not as popular as it used to be and the other major sports? because its a cold weather sport? because its too low scoring?   ideas...?
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Cadet04
6/6/2007 3:33:40 PM Report Abuse
Share isn't a number, so it would be impossible for the share to be 3 million.  Share is a percentage.  This is why i started this, you two keep making up numbers and facts.  A Rating is a number (i.e, 1.1 or 1.9) for one it is the equivalent of 1.114 million households.  Share is the amount of viewers watching compared to number of TV's in current use.  Therefore, you can't have a share of 3 million.  The 1.1 and 1.9 combined for a little over 3.3 million viewers combined for games 3 and 4. 

Hockey isn't as popular because they sat out a year over a lockout which could have been easily fixed.  There were a couple times when it seemed as though they would fix the problem but the two sides were so intent on making the other pay they decided to sit out the year.  The low scoring isn't an issue now with the rule changes, and low scoring has never been a problem for baseball, college basketball or soccer. 

I really want to know your definition of a "true" fan.  Because my definition of a True Fan is someone who has an allegiance toa  team, but still follows everything else.  I tried doing that last year (hell, i even won my fantasy hockey league), but with all the players changing teams and now the way fighting is looked down upon hockey is not only losing myself, but obviously a lot of other fans. 

At this juncture, i just can't see it being justified putting Hockey on primetime network tv.  It's even tough to put it on cable.  Look, here are the Top 15 cable ratings from last week.

Top 15 Cable Series: Total Households
Rank
Program Name
Net
Day
Time
Household
Viewers
Rating
Audience
1
NBA PLAYOFFS (PISTONS/CAVALIERS)
TNT
SAT
9:26 PM
4.9
5,495,000
7,411,000
2
SOPRANOS, THE
HBOM
SUN
9:03 PM
4.7
5,199,000
8,019,000
3
NBA PLAYOFFS (CAVALIERS/PISTONS)
TNT
THU
8:19 PM
4.0
4,489,000
5,649,000
4
NBA PLAYOFFS (PISTONS/CAVALIERS)
TNT
SAT
9:08 PM
3.9
4,348,000
5,731,000
5
STARTER WIFE, THE
USA
THU
9:00 PM
3.7
4,078,000
5,390,000
6
MLB SUNDAY NIGHT L (YANKEES/RED SOX)
ESPN
SUN
8:00 PM
3.6
3,985,000
5,304,000
7
NBA PLAYOFFS (PISTONS/CAVALIERS)
TNT
SAT
8:33 PM
3.3
3,688,000
4,943,000
8
NBA PLAYOFFS (PISTONS/CAVALIERS)
TNT
TUE
8:19 PM
3.2
3,598,000
4,734,000
9
NBA PLAYOFFS-CONF FNLS L (SPURS/JAZZ)
ESPN
MON
9:00 PM
2.9
3,277,000
4,614,000
10
WWE ENTERTAINMENT (WWE RAW)
USA
MON
10:00 PM
2.7
3,056,000
4,544,000
11
WWE ENTERTAINMENT (WWE RAW)
USA
MON
9:00 PM
2.7
3,017,000
4,473,000
12
NBA PLAYOFFS-CONF FNLS L (JAZZ/SPURS)
ESPN
WED
9:00 PM
2.7
3,006,000
3,969,000
13
LAW & ORDER
TNT
MON
9:00 PM
2.5
2,832,000
3,638,000
14
ARMY WIVES
LIF
SUN
10:00 PM
2.4
2,705,000
3,471,000
15
SPONGEBOB
NICK
SUN
9:30 AM
2.4
2,696,000
3,292,000


Spongebob squarepants got higher viewership at 930 in the morning on sunday then hockey got.  That's pathetic.
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Cadetfan2010
6/6/2007 7:17:07 PM Report Abuse
"Low scoring has never been a problem for soccer."  I hope that's a joke cadet because it's kinda funny.

The players aren't really changing teams anymore cadet. That was only because of the trade deadline and the new thing in hockey is to trade for high draft picks so you can build a team around young players. Just look at pittsburgh and Washington. It's starting to work. The fighting ordeal now in the NHL is just plain stupid. I really hate how most people think that the only thing to hockey is fighting. Hockey is really a finess and skill sport.

The NHL got just over 3 million veiwers cadet. If you notice on your list spongebob got 3.292 million veiwers that is why the NHL is not on that list.

My definition of a true fan is someone who watches their team religiously and watches their games through the good times and the bad. I will also add in they WATCH THE STANLEY CUP (all of it). Oh, lets also not forget THEY ARE NOT SELLOUTS TO THEIR SPORT (CADET)!
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annacrasto
12/13/2011 5:30:19 AM Report Abuse

i like watching all this stuff live

http://www.amazonticketsonline.com/WWE

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